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Justice League vs Justice League
Topic Started: May 11 2018, 01:09 AM (893 Views)
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Justice League (DCEU): Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman

Justice League (DCTV): Supergirl, Green Arrow, Vixen, The Flash, The Atom and Firestorm

The movie vs the television

Who wins?
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If bloodlusted CW Atom should be able to potentially solo unless they've nerfed him massively.
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CW Flash could win by himself by building an army of time remnants just like Thawne did in the Legends Season 2 finale. Except Barry would be able to create far more remnants in a fraction of the time since he's currently much faster than that incarnation of Thawne.

Of course, moral constraints would keep him from exploiting time travel. If everyone is acting in-character, I imagine Superman could pull a win for the movie side. If everyone is "bloodlusted" and going all out, the TV side wins even if Barry doesn't create an army of clones.
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I think Superman solos. The only threat is Supergirl but she isn't a good enough fighter to beat him. Everyone else bounces off him.


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May 11 2018, 01:57 PM
I think Superman solos. The only threat is Supergirl but she isn't a good enough fighter to beat him. Everyone else bounces off him.
Yeah, this.

DCEU Superman is strong and fast, Supergirl might be slightly stronger than him given her ridiculous feat with that key that casually weighed some million tons but being able to tow that massive ship puts Superman close to her.

And her strength doesn't match her durability at all, rando aliens that are nowhere near as strong manage to hurt her so even if Supes was like 25% her strength he'd still wreck her.


Their only real chance against him is the fact that he's not used to fighting kryptonite and that Green Arrow probably has some, Batman style.

Or maybe Firestorm could just make some since he can transmute s***, not sure how good he is at that these days, I'm like 2 seasons behind.


Even if they did beat Supes if Wonder Woman went God mode she'd destroy them.
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Oliver did use a kryptonite arrow in the crisis crossover, but we've also seen Batfleck weaponizing kryptonite in the past. I'm not sure why either of them would bring it to the fight, though, unless each team is already aware that the other has a Kryptonian in it. Has Batfleck ever been characterized as the sort of Batman who's ready for anything at any occasion?

Firestorm did seem to have gotten the hang of transmutation by late season 2. Assuming Stein knows what kryptonite is (which is likely the case since even Oliver does), I don't see why Firestorm wouldn't be able to create some.
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May 11 2018, 06:35 PM
DCEU Superman is strong and fast, Supergirl might be slightly stronger than him given her ridiculous feat with that key that casually weighed some million tons but being able to tow that massive ship puts Superman close to her.


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The oil rig might've weighed more than that for all we know, but the only weights for oil rigs I've found are for smaller ones so yeah.

There's also this.

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I think Superman solos. The only threat is Supergirl but she isn't a good enough fighter to beat him. Everyone else bounces off him.
She isn't a good fighter? She's slightly better than even CW's Superman at fighting. Their Superman apparently already fought Zod and was on War World (probably fought Mongul and Draga) and she's currently learning a 31st century fighting style being taught to her by Mon-El. I seen all of Superman (DCEU) minus Justice League and he's not really too good at fighting.

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May 11 2018, 08:57 PM
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His strength is highly random it seems, I wonder how far he'll go since we haven't even seen him properly use the sun yet. Like actually go near it to absorb power.

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She isn't a good fighter? She's slightly better than even CW's Superman at fighting. Their Superman apparently already fought Zod and was on War World (probably fought Mongul and Draga) and she's currently learning a 31st century fighting style being taught to her by Mon-El. I seen all of Superman (DCEU) minus Justice League and he's not really too good at fighting.


Yeah but neither of those are all that skilled, strong yeah but their strength doesn't flow well with their speed.

Superman nearly killed The Flash even though he's faster than him and Supes had just been resurrected.


Last I seen of Supergirl she flies fast up to people and then she completely slows down to start swinging at them, whereas in MoS we see Supes breaking the sound barrier with basic punches. He only seems to have got stronger from there.
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May 11 2018, 11:43 AM
If bloodlusted CW Atom should be able to potentially solo unless they've nerfed him massively.
He is by far the worst hero on Legends. Extremely useless until called upon to create gadgets. Any other showing of Atom like in JL Unlimited or otherwise and he's a complete bad a**. But CW makes him the nerdy folly.

Honestly the combination of Superman and Wonder Woman alone in the DCEU completely destroys anything CW set could throw at them. That includes CW Barry's stupid a**.
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Supergirl lifting a million tons is a way better strength feat than anything DCEU Superman has done. The tectonic plate thing is the only thing that's above it but it's an off hand line done through unknown means and really shouldn't be taken at face value given his other feats being nowhere near Ms. Million Ton
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Maybe the CW gang could use the Zambesi totems from Legends Season 3 and conjure a super-powerful Beebo or Stay Puft Marshmallow Man to defeat the DCEU gang.
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How fast is The Flash (DCEU)? This could factor into my argument.
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May 12 2018, 02:46 AM
How fast is The Flash (DCEU)? This could factor into my argument.
It's not really clear, to be honest.

iirc Bruce said his suit was made of a material that could withstand re-entry speed. Anywhere between Mach 10-25 if that's the case, but he looked faster at times.
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May 12 2018, 01:34 AM
Supergirl lifting a million tons is a way better strength feat than anything DCEU Superman has done. The tectonic plate thing is the only thing that's above it but it's an off hand line done through unknown means and really shouldn't be taken at face value given his other feats being nowhere near Ms. Million Ton
That strength isn't displayed in her fighting at all though and the ship Superman towed, which bear in mind was on ice so he was likely being careful, could be anywhere between like 25,000-100,000 tons.

She's not that far above him and like I said her durability doesn't match her strength.
She's definitely not faster combat wise either.

She also shouldn't be faster than Supes in flight, since she was slower than The Flash who IIRC really isn't all that.
Meanwhile DCEU Supes flies halfway around the planet easily within a minute or two.
He and Zod reach space pretty damn fast too and re-entry does nothing to them.

Not to mention the nuke. Can't see how Supergirl puts a dent in him really, unless I'm missing some amazing feats.



As for The Flash in DCEU, I'm sure there are plenty lolcalcs out there but that he could draw all over that dudes face without him noticing, quite a detailed drawing as well, is pretty impressive.
And then there's his very first feat of knocking that criminal to the side and then catching the milk bottle he was holding before it dropped.

I feel like if anything he's probably just even with CW Flash.
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